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RE: Iron Man 3 - Huntersky - 04-05-2013
Erm... nie. Nie ważne. Wyłącz internet na tydzień. :)
Cytat:W dodatku są świetnie i różnorodnie zaprojektowaneJeśli dobrze się przyjrzeć, to 3/4 nowych pancerzy jest zbudowana z tych samych, wymieszanych ze sobą fragmentów różniących się kolorami. Co nie zmienia faktu, że wyglądają ślicznie.
RE: Iron Man 3 - Gieferg - 04-05-2013
Tyler:
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SpoilerMierzwiak - witaj w klubie :)
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mierzwiak - 04-05-2013
W jakim klubie, Gief? Napisałem że zepsuto mi film w sensie zaspoilowano prawdopodobnie najważniejszy (jedyny?) twist, w żadnym stopniu nie umniejsza to mojego oczekiwania na IM3, a tym bardziej nie zamierzam płakać z powodu odstępstw od komiksów które a) zlewam b) nie znam :)
RE: Iron Man 3 - Gieferg - 04-05-2013
Cytat:W jakim klubie, Gief? Napisałem że zepsuto mi film w sensie zaspoilowano prawdopodobnie najważniejszy (jedyny?) twist
W klubie tych, którym zaspoilowano ten twist gdy niczego nie podejrzewając czytali sobie recenzje. Spojrzałem na tę recenzję na Slash film, zabawne, koleś stwierdza że są elementy fabuły o których nie będzie pisał, żeby nie spoilerować, po czym nagle jeb! jednym słowem ujawnia najważniejszy z nich.
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mierzwiak - 04-05-2013
Myślałem że spodziewałeś się po mnie takiego samego focha jakiego Ty strzeliłeś :)
RE: Iron Man 3 - slepy51 - 04-05-2013
Mickey napisał(a):A co powiecie na przegląd zbroi filmowych? Od Mark 1 do Mark 42.
Zapomniałeś o najważniejszej:
![[Obrazek: 301894_395116167190723_2014008092_n.jpg]](https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301894_395116167190723_2014008092_n.jpg)
:)
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mefisto - 04-05-2013
(04-05-2013, 14:09)wujo444 napisał(a): Mnie również. W dodatku są świetnie i różnorodnie zaprojektowane. Faworytem nadal pozostaje Gemini.
Mark 6 - reszta wygląda albo koszmarnie albo kiczowato
RE: Iron Man 3 - timobajl - 04-05-2013
''Ponoć dużo za dużo humoru i to niskich lotów.''
Suchy humor i słabe on-linery jak w Avengers?
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mickey - 04-05-2013
(04-05-2013, 15:45)slepy51 napisał(a):Mickey napisał(a):A co powiecie na przegląd zbroi filmowych? Od Mark 1 do Mark 42.
Zapomniałeś o najważniejszej:
:)
Byłem pewny że pod spoilerem ukrywa się to:
![[Obrazek: OHstnAQ.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/OHstnAQ.jpg)
;)
RE: Iron Man 3 - Gieferg - 04-05-2013
(01-05-2013, 11:53)Tyler Durden napisał(a): @Gieferg - bez wgłębiania się w spoilery, nie został
Czytałem już kilka ciekawych fanowskich teorii w wydaniu tych co widzieli, które zdają się zaprzeczać tak kategorycznemu postawieniu sprawy (ale oczywiście nie widząc filmu nie mogę na ten temat nic wiedzieć).
Poniżej przykład fantazjowania na temat Iron Mana 3 oraz przyszłości MCU/phase 2:
[spoiler="fanowskie teorie & spojlery z IM3"]For all intents and purposes, Killian is the Mandarin. To an extent. I believe that The Mandarin was created by the extremis virus. Killian showed what it can do, and how it can hijack someone's mind. Aldrich Killian is Aldrich Killian, trevor, is the physical representation of what the Mandarin is. Now, as we saw through out the movie, Killian went more crazy, and crazy. Why? He already took Extremis, why is it taking so long for him to go crazy? The Mandarin, if you will, is a title he created, and gave to the entity that is doing his work, that entity, very well may be his altered point of view, created after taking Extremis..he went crazy. Creating ALMOST like a super ego type thing. This idea, that he created, is what the mandarin is. So yeah, Killian's mind IS the Mandarin,. However, I think it goes deeper than that. I think Killian lost control of his own mind, and this mandarin ego in his mind took over. Tony Is unstable, the extremis soldiers are unstable, Killian wanted tony's mind. He talked about how extremis allows you to basically hijack the mind. Now, while someone may be free to think, I think that Killian had access to the minds of the extremis soldiers. This movie, to me, was like the origin of the mandarin. We don't really know who or what he is, cause it's more than just aldrich killian, it's an image, a symbol, a persona created by his psyche due to extremis to take credit for what he did. I think he needed tony's mind, to complete extremis SO he can get complete control of his mind again, but at the end, I think he just accepts it. He lost control, this psyche completely takes over "I AM the mandarin" I think it was hinted, because extremis can hijack minds, and after that, Killian was becoming more and more unstable..so I think that this mandarin psyche created by himself was taking over.
Now here is the deal with Trevor, what I think. He is a drunk, pretty decent actor for a drunk. He said Killian "fixed him" "gave him more drugs" and gave him "surgery" Keep note, that Trevor didn't know ANYTHING..he's an actor working for this guy, but he doesn't know anything? Or he doesn't remember anything because he was being controlled?...I think he may have given him extremis. I think Killian had control over trevor. So when we saw Trevor on TV, saying you'll never see me coming, all that...it really was the mandarin, not an actor. The Mandarin, this crazy psych created by Killian thanks to extremis, was using Trevor, literally as a vessel. The Mandarin was inside trevor and was actually using him. I think that The Mandarin (this...free altered personality, if you will, subconsciously created by Killian's psyche in response to extremis) was using trevor to hide in plain site. I think the hint there, was Trevor saying what Killian did to him, via surgery. That, and Killian saying that extremis allows you to hijack minds, and the fact that Killian was getting more unstable, leads me to think that Killian is unstable. So Trevor wasn't just acting, he was being controlled by The Mandarin. This leaves a plot hole, how could he know/think he was acting then? It could be because he thought so because he had full control of his mind again...I don't know.
That's what I think the mandarin is. An altered version of Killian's personality subconsciously created after taking extremis..a sort of biological AI, who created/called itself the Mandarin, Killian/mandarin hired trevor to use and hide..Killian, still doesn't have full control of his mind...that's why he's after tony, so he can fix extremis, and be free to think completely and have full control..however, at the end of the movie, I think he just cracks, and Killian accepts that the mandarin is in his head, and the Mandarin FULLY takse over.."I am the Mandarin".
Now for the movie...it was Stark's memory. The whole movie, he told to bruce banner. We saw it how stark remembered it. Stark was at peace at the end, if you will, he has a complete character arc, now take into consideration what he said at the end to pepper. That he was onto extremis, he almost had it figured out, and he said he'll fix pepper, and fix himself, and he talks about extremis how he was almost able to figure it out.. bookmark Now hear me out. Stark..as far as we know, is good. He's stable, right? He's sane, no more anxiety? Well, WHY is he looking for help then? If that was all his memory, and it ended on a good note, WHY does he need help? that leaves a possibility, that maybe..JUST maybe, he doesn't remember it EXACTLY as it happened, because 1. It's a memory, and 2. He may still be unstable for some whatever reason, maybe something is repressed.. Back to the bookmark. He hinted there that maybe at some point in between the end of the story, and the end credit scene, maybe he did perfect extremis? Well guess what, since The Mandarin has access to anything extremis, he had access to tony' mind. However, MAYBE he couldn't hijack it because tony's mind and psyche is so strong. Maybe the mandarin altered his thoughts naturally a bit trying to hack his memory, and as a result, Tony is a bit unstable, but doesn't really know why, when it really it is because his mind fought off Mandarin, altering his memory a little bit. It all goes back to Killian talking about mind hijacking, and the fact that after that point in the movie, Killian kept loosing control..SORT of like what was happening to tony. Maybe that's how it get's figured out, that the mandarin is more than a person, and he doesn't die with a phsyical body, he could essentially be a floating consciousness or something.
Now for the masters...Captain America 2 is referred to as Avengers 1.5. It seems like we may get some sort of masters in Avengers 2...now I am putting two and two together, but Masters of evil..zemo..captain america..zemo..a hunch says Zemo will probably be in Cap 2. We'd assume Zemo is the head of HYRDRA. In the comics, AIM is a branch of HYDRA. Well, who's to say it's NOT in the movies? Now, as someone said earlier, Tony Figures out that the title, The Mandarin, means advisor to the king. Why would it call itself that? Does that hint, that Mandarin is working for/with somebody?? Assuming Zemo is the head of Hydra, he probably has power, and A LOT of money. How did Killian suddenly get money to fully fund advanced idea mechanics? Maybe Zemo funded it. Maybe zemo funded it as a branch to HYRDRA, who the world thinks is gone.. zemo being the head of Hydra, funds Killians work, as a branch of Hydra. Obviously Killian then went crazy when the Mandarin took over. But That's how I see it, if Advisor to the King is hinting at anything, it could very well hint that he worked with Zemo...which would in turn, lead me to think that zemo funded his work, and since AIM is a branch of Hydra in the comics, something similar must be going on here.
Now regardless, Trevor worked with terrorist, so he's gettin his ass locked up. I'm sure at the end of Captain America, Zemo, who is probably a world wide threat, gets reprimanded, and locked up..i'm gunna say Trevor is there as well. Remember the leader hints in TIH? Maybe he's there as well. NOW, trevor is trevor, sure, but the mandarin has access to trevors mind because Killian may have given him extremis..so boom, for all intents and purposes once again, trevor is THE mandarin.
and then we get the class breakout story in avengers 2 [/spoiler]
RE: Iron Man 3 - Tyler Durden - 04-05-2013
Zmyślna teoria, ale grubymi nićmi do szyte, chwilami absurdalne w swojej wielowarstwowości i skomplikowaniu, pokładające za wielką wiarę w scenarzystów i produkt nastawiony na koszenie mamony. No ale oczywiście nie mogę ze 100% pewnością stwierdzić, że to bzdury, może to zaś ja niedoceniam kierownictwo Marvela.
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mierzwiak - 04-05-2013
(04-05-2013, 16:26)timobajl napisał(a): Suchy humor i słabe on-linery jak w Avengers?I beg your pardon?
RE: Iron Man 3 - timobajl - 05-05-2013
(04-05-2013, 21:46)Mierzwiak napisał(a):(04-05-2013, 16:26)timobajl napisał(a): Suchy humor i słabe on-linery jak w Avengers?I beg your pardon?
Spodoba się tylko małym dzieciom
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mierzwiak - 05-05-2013
Tylko małym dzieciom? TYLKO małym dzieciom? W sensie przeprowadziłeś badania które wykazały, że nie ma na świecie ani jednej dorosłej osoby, którą by on bawił?
RE: Iron Man 3 - Gieferg - 05-05-2013
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $175,300,000
+ Foreign: $504,800,000
= Worldwide: $680,100,000
Ciekaw jestem jak w post-avengers erze sobie poradzą finansowo Thor i Cap. Podejrzewam że jakby teraz zrobili TIH2 z Ruffallo, Hulk po raz pierwszy zaliczyłby sukces kasowy solowym filmem.
Timobajl napisał(a):Suchy humor i słabe on-linery jak w
...postach timobajla.
RE: Iron Man 3 - Craven - 05-05-2013
Jestem zbulwersowany - film zarobił już prawie 700 baniek a ja wciąż go nie widziałem!
RE: Iron Man 3 - tchopz - 06-05-2013
Byle do czwartku, do 19:00...
RE: Iron Man 3 - nawrocki - 06-05-2013
Byle do wypłaty...
RE: Iron Man 3 - Gal Anonim - 06-05-2013
(02-05-2013, 10:39)Gieferg napisał(a): Co do kadru z Extremis - aha, ok, czyli wzięli ten bzdet z komiksu.Lol, gość w super-zbroi albo koleś pod wpływem serum zmieniający się w gigantycznego potwora są spoko, ale ludzie zionący ogniem po cyberpunkowych przeróbkach to bzdety? Piękne. :)
RE: Iron Man 3 - Mefisto - 06-05-2013
(06-05-2013, 13:45)nawrocki napisał(a): Byle do wypłaty...
ej no, środy są po 14 zł w CC, to się nawet możesz zapożyczyć :)