Cator, jesteś dość wybiórczy z tym doborem komentarzy z AVclub, bo też właśnie czytam obie ich recki, i widzę, że po pierwszym masowym wylewaniu żali, to zaczynają tam przeważać komentarze logicznie wykładające dlaczego ten motyw ma sens.
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Cytat:He burned heretics because Melisandre told him to. He killed his brother because Melisandre told him to. He burned his daughter because Melisandre told him to. It's all he's ever done.
There is a point after which Stannis' rational consistency breaks under the cult thinking and the grand stories Melisandre has drilled into him. This is that point. This was *always* going to happen. I am amazed *anyone* didn't see it coming from miles away.
*Parts* of Stannis are a good, noble man. The rest of him is just a delusional fool who destroyed his family for a cult. This is not new.
Cytat:And to show that for as much as Stannis loves his daughter, the horror and tragedy of his life is that he has given himself and his loved ones over to a death cult in the quixotic pursuit of power. This has always been his story.
Cytat:Those quick to criticize this should also recall that Melisandre spun a tale for the ages in his ear. Stannis MUST lead the kingdoms against the army of the dead. There's no wiggle room in her prophecies. Adding to that her magic (or the Lord of Light's magic) isn't inert, it's real and gets results.Adding to that, there's a kind of circular logic to it. Stannis has already sacrificed so much that if it isn't his destiny to be King, then he must admit that all of his sacrifices were meaningless and he's just a murderer, a pawn and a fraud.
Cytat:Agamemnon sacrificed his daughter Iphigenia when he was convinced that that was the only way the gods would let the winds turn so the Greek armies could depart for Troy. It set a chain of events in place that eventually resulted in his death (at the hands of his wife). I'd assume that that's where this plotline is drawn from. The sacrifice of what you hold most dear for honour/religion/glory – Melisandre was always leading Stannis to this point.
Cytat:I think the people who are complaining are saying that it wasn't built up to properly. We said goodbye to nice Stannis who talked to Sam about dragonglass and almost hugged his daughter at the Wall and then BAM he was supposedly in totally, completely, daughter-burningly dire straits. Or maybe he was always an asshole. The show seems always to have been on the fence about how it characterizes Stannis. They just don't spend enough time on him.
Cytat:I don't think Stannis started out as a monster, but he just made himself one, and I understand why it happened while also being repulsed by him. I love his storyline, but it was so crushingly clear it was going to end like this. It's a story about a family in a cult.
Cytat:Stannis has love in his heart. It's just never been enough, That's been true of him since he first appeared, and slaughtered his little brother.
Cytat:The idea that "Stannis is just" is pretty comical too. Although I'm sure Stannis himself thinks he's just, while ignoring how much of his code is actual nonsense.
Fuck the cavalry and the committee that recieves 'em.
09-06-2015, 04:48 (Ten post był ostatnio modyfikowany: 09-06-2015, 06:08 przez Proteus.)